This is a ~1 hour discussion with Adam Safron (https://www.adamsafron.com/) and Max Shen (https://www.maxkshen.com/home), and Michael Levinabout diverse intelligence and its relevance for pain.
Exploring the unseen forces of life, cognition, and emergence — with Professor Michael Levin. Conversations on morphogenesis, bioelectricity, synthetic biology, and the nature of intelligence.